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Comment on Coal billionnaire sunk by vast metaphor by Mark Ritzenhein

Mark Ritzenhein — Mon, 14 May 2012 04:17:52 +0000

Logic occurs in the mind, and is as illusory as all other phenomena dismissed by rationalists. However, the issue of inevitability and inertia still bears down upon the human race. I see technological change finally picking up speed, but will it be at all sufficient to reverse the gassing off of the permafrost methane, along with the sudden collapse and of the ice cap albedo switch? Not likely. Will the oceans which have absorbed so much CO2 just return to a previous chemical stasis, like magic? Not likely. Overreach by earlier human societies indicates 90% die-off.

Comment on Coal billionnaire sunk by vast metaphor by Graham Game

Graham Game — Tue, 01 May 2012 16:39:08 +0000

Earth to Robert . . . Come in Robert . . !!

Comment on Coal billionnaire sunk by vast metaphor by Robert M Stahl

Robert M Stahl — Tue, 01 May 2012 13:31:17 +0000

Because the metaphor is not a simile. Bertrand Russell proved that a field is not structure, truth is a simple underlying notion in a wider field it is inclusive in (structure?), and math in the end is pure fiction. Similarity is the only path to structure, which, instead of karma, is ecstacy, or Life. Ecology?

All of the world, stemming from the laws of the universe, are music-based. There is no silence, and all of the miracles we understand exist at one level or another, looked at in hindsight properly, are contextually associated with music. Where is the higher intelligence? Probably lost in a disease… Try Gregory Bateson’s Steps to an Ecology of Mind to start.

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Comment on HOW TO TALK TO A CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER (DISSENTER) by Sarah

Sarah — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:40:41 +0000

“I argue strongly that one should avoid a debate about the data and content of the science, and concentrate instead on addressing the values and emotions from which people construct their beliefs.”

The above comment is exactly why your aregument is losing steam. Why would you ever discourage anyone from discussing the science?Strategies to persuade peole into beleiving climate change tells the whole story. if it’s fact, you wouldn’t meed persuasion.

Comment on HOW TO TALK TO A CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER (DISSENTER) by Stephen O'Kane

Stephen O'Kane — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:49:35 +0000

I’m sure the basic argument is correct; if I have understood things aright most climate change dissenters are not scientists anyway. But I would say be careful of behaving like persuaders, salesmen, and the like. That can seem like treating people as passive consumers with little intelligence or time to think. Hopefully, it is possible to reach someone’s soul without doing that.

Comment on THE INGENIOUS WAYS WE AVOID BELIEVING IN CLIMATE CHANGE- A VIDEO PRESENTATION by William Hughes-Games

William Hughes-Games — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 03:18:08 +0000

I figure it isn’t worthwhile trying to convince the real sceptics (or are they just people with vested interests) of climate change. How about this for an approach.
http://mtkass.blogspot.co.nz/2010/10/forget-climate-change.html
Regards
William

Comment on HOW TO TALK TO A CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER (DISSENTER) by Ryder

Ryder — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:31:16 +0000

This is all about persuasion… in other words, salesmanship.

The true art of sales is to get people to buy things they don’t really need, by getting them to feel like they do.

Of course, these same rules apply to those that want to sell the idea that climate always changes, always has and always will… to persuade people that it’s nothing worth worrying about.

The *validity* of either view becomes totally unimportant in this context.

Not especially different from the famous “How to win friends and influence people”

Comment on Why was The Great Global Warming Swindle so persuasive? by Blake

Blake — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:40:52 +0000

Climate change was initially disputed and even now is difficult to evaluate because it entails deep political and industrial implications and arises from the core process of our civilation’s success. Its obvious that the media made climate change one of the most controversial issues and the general public did not know who to believe, thus, in the contemporary society the public may have a general concensus that climate change is real, but they are hesitant to take any action due to the dispute made by the political and industrial community, in addition to the implications to their daily lives.

Comment on HOW TO TALK TO A CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER (DISSENTER) by John Mulholland

John Mulholland — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:35:01 +0000

First class. The principles described are universal truths not just applicable to climate change but to any topic as Peter also said above. I particularly liked the personal journey and world view elements. Very often I ask people who are green in outlook about their personal journey and listen carefully to the drivers which brought change. The answers can be very unexpected and unpredictable. George’s comment on everyone’s journey began somewhere struck me. 25 years ago climate change was an issue but no one realised the problem. So everyone has made a jorney even if it is to say it is not an issue.Common ground is also a key element. People often want to be mainstream and this factor of wanting to belong is much stronger that most people recognise. Much impressed by the clip. Thank you.

Comment on HOW TO TALK TO A CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER (DISSENTER) by Peter Winters

Peter Winters — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:56:51 +0000

Brilliant. Well done – although, for me, this is really more generally about ‘persuasion’. It helped me with something I have been thinking about which is nothing to do with climate change. You should call this “George Marshall’s 6 steps to persuasion”.