Comments on: COOKING THE BOOKS: How to write a contrarian polemic on climate change. http://climatedenial.org/2008/09/16/cooking-the-books-how-to-write-a-contrarian-polemic-on-climate-change/ Charting the disconnect between climate science and action Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:48:59 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ian MacDougall http://climatedenial.org/2008/09/16/cooking-the-books-how-to-write-a-contrarian-polemic-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-57027 Ian MacDougall Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:28:43 +0000 http://climatedenial.org/?p=139#comment-57027 A great site, George. I only wish the denailists were right. But apart from that, they have trouble getting their story straight. People like Plimer and Monckton go from asserting that the planet is cooling to any warming is in line with natural variation and cannot be anthropogenic. If they are right we have nothing to worry about. In the far more likely event that they are wrong they will emerge as the modern counterparts of the great deniers of the 1930s; those people who said that the world had nothing to fear from Hitler; who dined high on the hog on it at the time, but sought only anonymity and political oblivion after 1939. My advice to them is to enjoy it while it lasts. A great site, George.

I only wish the denailists were right. But apart from that, they have trouble getting their story straight. People like Plimer and Monckton go from asserting that the planet is cooling to any warming is in line with natural variation and cannot be anthropogenic. If they are right we have nothing to worry about. In the far more likely event that they are wrong they will emerge as the modern counterparts of the great deniers of the 1930s; those people who said that the world had nothing to fear from Hitler; who dined high on the hog on it at the time, but sought only anonymity and political oblivion after 1939.

My advice to them is to enjoy it while it lasts.

]]> By: James Fargo http://climatedenial.org/2008/09/16/cooking-the-books-how-to-write-a-contrarian-polemic-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-44413 James Fargo Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:35:16 +0000 http://climatedenial.org/?p=139#comment-44413 It is only by reading the work of those whom you call "deniers" that I have come to more fully understand the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Argument and questioning are central to the advancement of knowledge, and the people who publicly question the Theory are doing society a great service. Ad hominem attacks on these people lowers the quality of the debate. Do the proponents of the Anthropogenic Global Warming theory know what is causing the current cooling and how long it will last? Will it be "aerosals", or diminished solar activity? I suppose it doesn't matter if you are looking for political action, and ignoring the current trend of the data. As the data diverge from the computer simulations which you use to confirm your theory, you ought to address the discrepancy rather than calling those who point this out names. Your approach is its own form of denial. It is only by reading the work of those whom you call “deniers” that I have come to more fully understand the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Argument and questioning are central to the advancement of knowledge, and the people who publicly question the Theory are doing society a great service. Ad hominem attacks on these people lowers the quality of the debate. Do the proponents of the Anthropogenic Global Warming theory know what is causing the current cooling and how long it will last? Will it be “aerosals”, or diminished solar activity? I suppose it doesn’t matter if you are looking for political action, and ignoring the current trend of the data. As the data diverge from the computer simulations which you use to confirm your theory, you ought to address the discrepancy rather than calling those who point this out names. Your approach is its own form of denial.

]]> By: Mene, Mene, Tekel u-Pharsin: Verse 1 « Greenfyre’s http://climatedenial.org/2008/09/16/cooking-the-books-how-to-write-a-contrarian-polemic-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-37493 Mene, Mene, Tekel u-Pharsin: Verse 1 « Greenfyre’s Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:02:45 +0000 http://climatedenial.org/?p=139#comment-37493 [...] those who are too fearful to do so), but here again it is mostly scientists skeptical about the aspects of the details, not the core [...] [...] those who are too fearful to do so), but here again it is mostly scientists skeptical about the aspects of the details, not the core [...]

]]> By: rpauli http://climatedenial.org/2008/09/16/cooking-the-books-how-to-write-a-contrarian-polemic-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32847 rpauli Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:32:38 +0000 http://climatedenial.org/?p=139#comment-32847 Axioms of the denialist professional PR campaign: Teach the controversy, Keep doubt active. Publish to promote. Strive for inaction Axioms of the denialist professional PR campaign:

Teach the controversy,
Keep doubt active.
Publish to promote.
Strive for inaction

]]> By: Graham Parton http://climatedenial.org/2008/09/16/cooking-the-books-how-to-write-a-contrarian-polemic-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32736 Graham Parton Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:01:09 +0000 http://climatedenial.org/?p=139#comment-32736 Great article, just what I need to deal with sceptics. I keep thinking they will eventually become irrelevant and nobody will listed to them but there isn't going to be some day of reckoning, they will just fade away and deny their denials. In the meantime they do immesurable damage by delaying direct action now. Great article, just what I need to deal with sceptics. I keep thinking they will eventually become irrelevant and nobody will listed to them but there isn’t going to be some day of reckoning, they will just fade away and deny their denials. In the meantime they do immesurable damage by delaying direct action now.

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